Carrie Fisher on Leia, Shock Therapy and Tea Partiers

Carrie Fisher knows that when she dies a photo of Princess Leia will pop up during the Academy Awards tribute reel -- and she's accepted it. The born-famous actress (dad Eddie Fisher left mom Debbie Reynolds for Elizabeth Taylor) has a permanent place in pop culture history thanks to 'Star Wars,' but her personal life has made its share of news. She's currently enjoying massive success with her book and one-woman show,
'Wishful Drinking.' PopEater got a few minutes with the acerbic actress-writer, and she talks candidly about her famous name, the ups and downs of being bipolar, the benefits of electro-shock therapy, and offers a few choice words for members of the Tea Party.
Explain to the kids back home how culturally significant your parents are.
I don't know if they were culturally significant, but they were very popular. My mother and my father were America's sweethearts. They literally received that tag. Even my parents sort of went along with the assumption that they were a good couple, but they probably weren't a very good couple. Anyway, my father was best friends with a man named Mike Todd. Mike Todd was married to Elizabeth Taylor. Mike Todd died in a plane crash, and my father consoled Elizabeth Taylor with his penis.
I can't imagine Elizabeth Taylor as my stepmother.
I was a child. I remember meeting her once. If you describe your childhood to me, I probably couldn't imagine that. It was my normal. Up until I don't know what age, probably recently, I thought everybody had stepmothers living in bungalows at the Beverly Hills Hotel wearing negligees.
Was it weird running into her as an adult?
No, it takes a lot to make something weird for me. She and I became friends much later on.
What kind of mom are you?
I am certainly not ordinary. I think it's been hard for my daughter. I know it's not easy for her to have a mother who is bipolar and had a drug problem. My father had a drug problem. That stuff's tough. It makes you grow up too fast. My daughter has had to be very strong to overcome some of my challenges and she is.
Does it bother you that when you die they'll run a picture of Princess Leia with the bagels on the side of your head?
No, that would be stupid because that's what's going to happen. When I die and they do the Academy reel, they will show Princess Leia.
I hope you get a big round of applause. Those things are popularity contests.
It's really sad, and what about leaving off Farrah Fawcett? I mean it's just weird. I didn't know they made that distinction. She did movies didn't she? Just as many, I'm sure, as some of the other people that nobody even remembered.
Ever get freaked out by 'Star Wars' fans at conventions?
It's hard to freak me out. I've had a lot of extreme experiences in my life. Most of the time the fans are very nice, but there are some of them that feel entitled to any sort of space you have and that stuff can get disconcerting.
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LAS VEGAS - MAY 29: Actress Carrie Fisher's Princess Leia Organa character from "Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi" is shown on screen while musicians perform during "Star Wars: In Concert" at the Orleans Arena May 29, 2010 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The traveling production features a full symphony orchestra and choir playing music from all six of John Williams' Star Wars scores synchronized with footage from the films displayed on a three-story-tall, HD LED screen. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)
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LAS VEGAS - MAY 29: Actress Carrie Fisher's Princess Leia Organa character and actor Mark Hamill's Luke Skywalker character from "Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope" are shown on screen while musicians perform during "Star Wars: In Concert" at the Orleans Arena May 29, 2010 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The traveling production features a full symphony orchestra and choir playing music from all six of John Williams' Star Wars scores synchronized with footage from the films displayed on a three-story-tall, HD LED screen. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)
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NEW YORK - NOVEMBER 24: Actress Carrie Fisher visits the "Late Show With David Letterman" at the Ed Sullivan Theater on November 24, 2009 in New York City. (Photo by Ray Tamarra/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Carrie Fisher
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NEW YORK - NOVEMBER 24: Actress Carrie Fisher visits the "Late Show With David Letterman" at the Ed Sullivan Theater on November 24, 2009 in New York City. (Photo by Ray Tamarra/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Carrie Fisher
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NEW YORK - NOVEMBER 24: Actress Carrie Fisher visits the "Late Show With David Letterman" at the Ed Sullivan Theater on November 24, 2009 in New York City. (Photo by Ray Tamarra/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Carrie Fisher
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NEW YORK - NOVEMBER 24: Actress Carrie Fisher visits the "Late Show With David Letterman" at the Ed Sullivan Theater on November 24, 2009 in New York City. (Photo by Ray Tamarra/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Carrie Fisher
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LOS ANGELES, CA - SEPTEMBER 03: (L-R) Actors Jamie Chung, Margo Harshman, Carrie Fisher, Briana Evigan, Audrina Patridge, Leah Pipes and Rumer Willis pose at the premiere of Summit Entertainment's "Sorority Row" at the ArcLight Theater on September 3, 3009 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Rumer Willis;Jamie Chung;Carrie Fisher;Leah Pipes;Audrina Patridge;Briana Evigan;Margo Harshman
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LOS ANGELES, CA - SEPTEMBER 03: Actress Carrie Fisher arrives at the premiere of Summit Entertainment's "Sorority Row" at the ArcLight Theater on September 3, 3009 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Carrie Fisher
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LOS ANGELES, CA - SEPTEMBER 03: Actress Carrie Fisher arrives at the premiere of Summit Entertainment's "Sorority Row" at the ArcLight Theater on September 3, 3009 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Carrie Fisher
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Did you get a cut in the merchandise?
No.
That sucks.
There are probably worse things. That's a high-class problem. In those days, we didn't know. There was no such thing, so I wasn't giving anything away that was actually valuable.
Any inkling how big it was going to be?
No, not at all. You'd have to be John Edward [TV psychic] or something. No film up until that time had really done that well. They invented the term blockbuster for it, meaning the lines busted the block.
Did you think it was going to be a goofy low-rent film?
No, not low-rent at all. The script was fantastic, so I thought I will like this. It will be this hip little whatever film off to one side. That's what I thought. What it did in my opinion was misbehave.
You've had electro-shock therapy. You've kind of become its poster girl, right?
[Laughs] I guess so. Look, they tried to convince me for years to do it and I said absolutely not because I believed everything they said about it. It has a very bad rap, but I found it very effective. I would not have done it unless I was desperate, which is a shame because I wish I had done it years ago. It would have made a lot of things easier. It's not the first treatment of choice for bipolars. They'll try medication, talk therapy, everything until they go to that.
Do you feel like it's under control now?
[Laughs] Well, sometimes, but the very nature of being manic depressive is not to feel like you're under control.
I know the lows are awful, but aren't the highs incredible?
They're awesome.
Do they make up a little bit for the lows?
It's like one hand doesn't remember what the other one's doing. When you're manic, yeah everything's great. I don't know if it quite makes it worthwhile, but it's better than any drug certainly.
You're a script doctor. Were you more creative during your highs?
Yes, but it's not necessarily that you're more creative, that's arguable. But its liquid confidence. You think you can do it and that's a huge part of being able to do anything, believing that you're great at it. Whether it's true or not, that'll give you a lot of energy to close the distance between you and whatever you have to do.
Are you dating anyone?
All I can say is, I'm not whatchamacallit, and I'm too old really to date. I'm not celibate, there you go. I couldn't even think of the word.
Didn't you tell people off for publishing unflattering photos of you last year?
They didn't run unflattering photos. They said I looked like Elton John. Tell them off, no. My point was a) I'm 53, and b) [I look like that] because I take medication. This is the worst thing about being bipolar. It makes you feel better, but then you look like s**t, so whatever you've gained in terms of feeling better you've lost because you look like s**t and in a world where appearance is huge. So I said, I did not realize that I had signed an invisible contract when I wore the metal bikini stating that I would stay looking the exact same way for the rest of my life. I wore the metal bikini 30 years ago, and now I am killing myself to try to get my body back, but between age and medications it's an uphill battle.
Is there anyone you haven't met that you've always wanted to?
Obama.
I'm surprised you haven't met him.
I know. I love him. Hopefully I'll meet him sometime. I'm just happy he exists.
Do you think Tea Party is just people who are pissed that there is an African American president?
Yup, and the fact that they chose to call themselves "teabaggers," which is slang for a certain act involving b***s. It sort of says a lot. I would say a mouthful. Looks like it's very upsetting for them, but he's brilliant. The thing is, he's half white but that's still not enough -- for them it's all white or f**k off. I think we don't deserve him and certainly teabaggers don't deserve him.
HBO announced earlier this month that they were bringing 'Wishful Drinking' to the small screen. The TV special (no air date yet) will feature bits from the stage show, plus archival footage.
Haven't seen the live show yet? Catch Carrie at the South Orange Performing Arts Center in South Orange, NJ on June 25-26. Buy tickets at SOPACnow.org.
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I grew up with Carrie. I'm just amazed that someone so liberal and(supposedly) inclusive and tolerant, would exclude ANY group that has a different view. We don't have to tolerate groups with views similar to ours...tolerance is required when their are opposing views. Carrie, a liberal, obviously cannot claim to be a tolerant person. Therefore, can she really claim to be a liberal/progressive?????
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Liberals claim to give all opinions an equal chance but then are aghast when they find out there actually are other opinions.
No kidding. I'm disappointed that somebody like Fischer who can think outside the box is still so closed minded. The rule with liberals is this: You can't say slanderous things about any group -- gay, black, latino -- except conservatives. It's open warfare on the limited government people. This way liberals don't have to listen to the ideas. They can simply dismiss a whole group of people with a labels. Racist, bigot, war-monger, hate-monger -- did I forget one. Oh, right, Nazis (nevermind that Nazis were liberal socialists). So we have the "open-minded" and "inclusive" people spewing the hate, all the while telling themselves how smart they are. It boggles the mind. Or the mind that still works.
She's right ... the Teabaggers are just a bunch of ignorant racists pitching a confused mix of whacko right-wing hatred disguised as a "political position."
Wait, if teabaggers are just racist because Obama is black what is a black teabagger?
Just because we feel we work for what we earn and would prefer to keep it not have it distributed, does not make us racist!
Does she claim to be a liberal progressive? Is that a party? That's just a label put on others, and to them it's a pejorative.
I prefer people who actually think instead of those who just spout slogans or criticisms of what others think, or what they think they think, and that goes for all parties, and certainly the "tea party". I'd say, do your own thinking, it's a very American thing to do. Never let anyone else think for you. And don't expect everyone else to agree with you and attack them if they don't.
Its sad that she couldn't just talk about her acting and life and not get into politics. Actors are so out of touch with reality and messed up, they really should not call others names.
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She didn't bring up the subject - She was asked a question!
I'm sure had she agreed with your way of thinking about politics, you would have thought she's wonderful! I think she is!!! Others were offended with the language, get over it!! You who were offended, what are you doing on the internet, you run into that type of talk everyday, get off the damn high horse! I am very close to someone who is bi-polar and the life isn't easy for him or his family. Keep your sense of humor, Carrie, there are a lot of people who love you and totally agree with you!!!
Ms Carrie Fisher, I have always liked your mom and her movies; I also loved your Star Wars franchise of movies. It's sad that your financial benefit of the merchandising of the Star Wars franchise was so meager. I hope to see you again in other movies. Today I have a new respect for you. I'm re-entering the whole Star Wars in my NetFlix Queue because you hit the nail on head in your description of the "teabagged" loons. Thank you for your theatrical performances, and a tremendous vote of thanks for your honesty!
Susie H.
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Dear Miss/Mrs. H
I would like to ask if you have actually spoken to any one who has been to a tea party rally, if you have you would know they did not pick the name teabaggers the left gave it to them.
I agree with you, despite the angry rhetoric from the right-wing "fringe-rs". Insofar as blaming the media for the teabaggers' image - that's ridiculous! All one needs do is watch the videos of their protests. Between the signs they carry, and the spit out of their mouths (both literally and figuratively), their perceived image is one they carved out for themselves! They're looney, for sure!
The name picked for the anti-socialist, limited government, fiscal responsibility movement is the 'Tea Party', not "teabaggers", which the progressives have picked, and told us it is a sexually explicit term. Nice. They never talk about the Boston Tea Party, probably because they know little about it, and the progressive movement has eliminated it from history curriculum. Should we call the anti-American "progressives" douchebaggers, or should we rise above their ignorance and just expose what they stand for (elitism)?
actually your all pretty much wrong, look up the boston tea party please, way before the term teabagging EVER came along, this is where the name teabaggers came from ,it was a protest group and the name was more or less adopted, anyone simple minded enough to think of an insult for someone they dont like and then improperly cite it should study the history of said enemy(ies) just a little better. very dissappointed in Carrie fisher for her very closed minded view
AMEN SUSIE. YOU GOT IT PERFECT.
I have been a fan and understood Carrie's MENTAL condition until now. She is entitled to her opinion and bad language but not when it fuels the fire, and unjustly. Never have I felt such prejudice since Obama. This is what he interjects in his eloquent speeches. Carrie better start reading between the lines. Carries's remarks about the Tea Party, being to black and not enough white are so dangerous. Prejudice will always exist and it's not always about color. Carrie along with Jane need more shock therapy, medication and a good shrink.
Amen!
Sorry Suzie, but the Princess and you are wrong about the Tea Party members. They are anything BUT racist due to the fact that 12% - 15% are Black and another 10% or so are other non-White races.
Also the obviously misinformed Ms. Fisher thinks the party calls THEMSELVES 'teabaggers' when everyone knows it was Rachel 'Madcow'
Maddow who first laughed at the term and then started using it every chance she got, then Anderson 'Silver Spoon' Cooper picked it up also. Both flaming Libtards.
She's really pathetic and has drank the Hollywood kool-aid, which is part of the reason this country is in the dumps. Left wing liberals have ruined this country.
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Oh really, and what was President Bush? There is enough blame to go around.