Mel Gibson's lawyers claim they have evidence that the explicit, racist tapes Oksana Grigorieva secretly recorded earlier this year were tampered with and edited, which would make them inadmissible in court. To date, five tapes of Gibson screaming threats and obscenities at his ex have been released by RadarOnline.
Arlo E. West, president and CEO of Creative Forensic Services, INC., and one of the nation's leading certified forensic audio and video experts, tells PopEater that the Gibson tapes are altered copies. West, who has listened to all of the tapes, says there are gaps and fading -- which are "red flags" that the recordings have been altered and therefore "cannot be considered accurate." He's also convinced Oksana had professional help to edit the tapes together from a string of conversations.
While there has been speculation about whether or not the tapes are real, RadarOnline is standing by its claims the tapes are authentic. "Numerous top experts who have analyzed tapes for the FBI and CIA, confirm the authenticity of the tapes, as does Oksana's lawyer. Mel can't deny that he said these hateful words, had these brutal arguments and made these threats. The focus remains squarely on these horrible things Mel said and the only question is when will he take accountability for his words and actions?" RadarOnline's David Perel told PopEater in a statement.
West believes these altered tapes will eventually be inadmissible in court. "There are redactions and missing pieces -- obviously things people didn't want others to hear," he analyzes. "It's possible Oksana was sitting in the editing room making sure certain things she said were not present."
He is hesitant to disclose if he thinks it is Gibson on the recording but notes that there is no accent in the tapes. "When I hear it, it sounds like Gibson. But this has clearly been edited. There is something missing ... Until an official analysis has been made, it's all just public perception and hearsay."
And the altered recording may explian why Grigorieva sounds so calm. "When a party knows they are being taped and taping the party who does not know they tend to be very calm and cool," he told HollywoodLife. "This is something I have heard many times when examining these types of recordings."
West also points out that it is a crime in California to intercept or eavesdrop upon any confidential communication, including a telephone call or wire communication, without the consent of all parties. But there are exceptions in "someone fears violence," Dan Abrams, the Chief Legal Analyst for NBC News said on 'The Today Show.'
According to California Recording Law, eavesdropping upon or recording a conversation, whether by telephone or face-to-face, when a person would reasonably expect their conversation to be confined to the parties present, carries the same penalty as intercepting telephone or wire communications. First offenses are punishable by a fine of up to $2,500 and imprisonment for no more than one year. Subsequent offenses carry a maximum fine of $10,000 and a jail sentence of up to one year. Intercepting, recording and disclosing information each carries a separate penalty.
The former couple's lawyers are set to appear in family court Thursday (July 15) in Los Angeles. Grigorieva's lawyers will ask a judge to strip the 'What Women Want' actor of custody of their 8-month-old daughter, Lucia.
The Los Angeles Sheriff's Department is investigating Gibson over an alleged domestic violence incident from earlier this year involving his ex-girlfriend. According to a news release, police have opened an inquiry into the alleged attack, which is dated Jan. 6, and are "currently gathering information regarding the allegations."
Grigorieva has already claimed the actor punched her in the face, knocking out her two front teeth, during an argument. Grigorieva also claims Gibson hit and bruised his baby daughter -- and there are photos to prove it. According to RadarOnline, the images allegedly show baby Lucia with a bruise on her chin and are part of her sealed declaration to the court.
On the tape, Grigorieva asks, "What kind of a man is that who would hit a woman when she is holding a child in her hands, hitting her twice in the face? What kind of a man is that?"
Gibson replies, "You know what? You f***ing deserved it."
Sources tell TMZ that incidents also occurred in February.
The pair broke up in April after dating for a little over a year. At the time, Grigorieva was quoted as saying, "We have split up, suddenly and recently ... Unfortunately, I cannot give you the reason. But you will find out everything quite soon."
The couple made their first public appearance only a few weeks after Gibson's wife of over 30 years, Robyn, filed for divorce. Gibson has seven children from that marriage. Grigorieva has a son, Alexander, from a previous relationship with actor Timothy Dalton.
I think she was setting him up, a woman does not go into detail like she did because it is too shaming for her. Of course, he was probably insulting her, they seem to have issues, and need more than tissues.
She should not be charged as she was gathering evidence against a dangerous, powerful man and people might not have believed her otherwise. Domestic violence victimns have a right to protect themselves. She is likely no saint but he is a horror and deserves to be in jail or ignored.
I have loved Mel as an actor since Mad Max. I will go see him in any movie he makes. I beleive this woman is out for money and revenge because he saw through her and won't marry her. I agree that she knows how to push all his buttons to make him angry.
I don't think the public cares whether the tapes are admissable in court, or not. The only thing that matters to people on the outside looking in is that Mel said those things, period. Whether he said them all at once, or piece-meal, means nothing, nor does Oksana's calm. Anyone who listened could tell she was intentionally being calm and cool, knowing she was on tape. He DID threaten her, and more than once. We have to keep in mind that the tapes have been out for a while, and not once has Mel forward to say, "That's not me talking." In the court of public opinion, Mel, you lose!
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I guess Oksana "blew" Mel the first year without any problems. Now he is accustomed to "blowjo*s" and the dang foreigner will NOT deliver- typical woman. She get's ya at the beginning then cuts you off. I hope Mel's dream-team attorney's get Oksana GOOD, the gold-digging dingbat.
provocation,has it happened to you?, Psychologist tell you to letting it out is healthier than holding it in, especially when a person is being screwed.
The CIA anaylized the tapes?...Oh Please! I'm holding my watch up because it has gotten so deep so fast, its too late for my boots! Is Mel guilty of abuse or being manipulated by someone who knows how to push his buttons in the correct sequence for the desired result? His reactions may indeed be abuse, but the other party may be just as abusive - just sneakier. She may be a total so and so in her own right...I've seen the type. I have also seen the type that need to record what is happening to them so they will be belived as well.
I think the baby will be the one that suffers. The entire incident should have been kept private and not leaked to the public. If Mel Gibson was abusing her she needed to seek the appropriate help. And Mel has issues to work out also with psychotherapy and maybe medication, especially if he is bipolar as claimed. It's called mental illness and Mel Gibson needs support from his family and friends and not be treated like an outcast. He is a brilliant actor who brought us great movies. I hope Oksana is keeping her baby's best interest at heart, the baby should be with the mother.
I saw his beautiful homes around the world on tv. What right does he have to act the way he does. He should lose everything and then he would possibly act like a normal human being and respect his fellow man.
By the time Mel's lawyers are done with her it will look like she was Genghis Khan's evil sister who hates kids and her country .As far as Mel's career being over I doubt it .I can still hear Robert Downey, Jr hooked on drugs saying "I like the taste of gun metal" and now look he's a big box office draw .
Mel is not a racist. Everyone when mad says stupid thing. I will say this: they are after Mel because they say that he is a anti semite. We all say stupid things. Whites, blacks, yellows, reds and browns. Why was Mel taped? It smells like a rat.
An expert can take a recordings of Barack Obama and spice them together so that it sounds like he is telling everyone to vote Republican. He can be made to say that Nancy Pelosi is a skank. The point is that recordings can be fixed just as pictures can be photoshopped. I am sure that Mel is no angel, however he is being made a scapegoat here for this gold-digger. She ought to be ashamed. I will bet that one to ten years from now Mel Gibson will still be around making great movies despite this witch.
what a moron his ex is putting all this garbage on the internet since the less people that want to deal with mel gibson will be less money for her to gold dig him out me personaly as an actor i thing he is one of the great ones who cares what he does in his personal life all couples have problems why should he be any different and honesty who cares this is some kind of media bull crap to ruin his carier guess he didnt play by someones ruls so its lets distroy mels carier time be better if everyond didnt feed into all this bull
I still stand by Mel - I think what he said was wrong and ethically horrible, but Oksana doesn't sound like a "woman in fear for her life", she sounds like she's taunting him, in my opinion. His rage is not right, and he needs help, but I think she's a money sucking pig.
Another reason why the mentally ill do not get the help they need til they do the crime or kill themselves or others. That why they don't executed the mentally ill.
Eh, when she gets her settlement, she will move on to the next poor bastard, eh, I mean rich bastard, who will fall for her crap. We have not heard the last of her.
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I think she was setting him up, a woman does not go into detail like she did because it is too shaming for her. Of course, he was probably insulting her, they seem to have issues, and need more than tissues.
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She should not be charged as she was gathering evidence against a dangerous, powerful man and people might not have believed her otherwise. Domestic violence victimns have a right to protect themselves. She is likely no saint but he is a horror and deserves to be in jail or ignored.
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we love you mel you are the best actars hollywood will ever seen
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I have loved Mel as an actor since Mad Max. I will go see him in any movie he makes. I beleive this woman is out for money and revenge because he saw through her and won't marry her. I agree that she knows how to push all his buttons to make him angry.
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I don't think the public cares whether the tapes are admissable in court, or not. The only thing that matters to people on the outside looking in is that Mel said those things, period. Whether he said them all at once, or piece-meal, means nothing, nor does Oksana's calm. Anyone who listened could tell she was intentionally being calm and cool, knowing she was on tape. He DID threaten her, and more than once. We have to keep in mind that the tapes have been out for a while, and not once has Mel forward to say, "That's not me talking." In the court of public opinion, Mel, you lose!
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Oksana is a gold-digger. I can see it in her eyes. She preyed on Mel and learn his weakness to develop a cause of attack.
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I guess Oksana "blew" Mel the first year without any problems. Now he is accustomed to "blowjo*s" and the dang foreigner will NOT deliver- typical woman. She get's ya at the beginning then cuts you off. I hope Mel's dream-team attorney's get Oksana GOOD, the gold-digging dingbat.
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provocation,has it happened to you?, Psychologist tell you to letting it out is healthier than holding it in, especially when a person is being screwed.
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The CIA anaylized the tapes?...Oh Please! I'm holding my watch up because it has gotten so deep so fast, its too late for my boots!
Is Mel guilty of abuse or being manipulated by someone who knows how to push his buttons in the correct sequence for the desired result? His reactions may indeed be abuse, but the other party may be just as abusive - just sneakier. She may be a total so and so in her own right...I've seen the type. I have also seen the type that need to record what is happening to them so they will be belived as well.
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I think the baby will be the one that suffers. The entire incident should have been kept private and not leaked to the public. If Mel Gibson was abusing her she needed to seek the appropriate help. And Mel has issues to work out also with psychotherapy and maybe medication, especially if he is bipolar as claimed. It's called mental illness and Mel Gibson needs support from his family and friends and not be treated like an outcast. He is a brilliant actor who brought us great movies. I hope Oksana is keeping her baby's best interest at heart, the baby should be with the mother.
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I saw his beautiful homes around the world on tv. What right does he have to act the way he does. He should lose everything and then he would possibly act like a normal human being and respect his fellow man.
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She looks great, Mel looks like a used cigarette butt! Nice skin Mel, lol...
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By the time Mel's lawyers are done with her it will look like she was Genghis Khan's evil sister who hates kids and her country .As far as Mel's career being over I doubt it .I can still hear Robert Downey, Jr hooked on drugs saying "I like the taste of gun metal" and now look he's a big box office draw .
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Mel is not a racist. Everyone when mad says stupid thing. I will say this: they are after Mel because they say that he is a anti semite.
We all say stupid things. Whites, blacks, yellows, reds and browns.
Why was Mel taped? It smells like a rat.
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An expert can take a recordings of Barack Obama and spice them together so that it sounds like he is telling everyone to vote Republican. He can be made to say that Nancy Pelosi is a skank. The point is that recordings can be fixed just as pictures can be photoshopped.
I am sure that Mel is no angel, however he is being made a scapegoat here for this gold-digger. She ought to be ashamed. I will bet that one to ten years from now Mel Gibson will still be around making great movies despite this witch.
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what a moron his ex is putting all this garbage on the internet since the less people that want to deal with mel gibson will be less money for her to gold dig him out me personaly as an actor i thing he is one of the great ones who cares what he does in his personal life all couples have problems why should he be any different and honesty who cares this is some kind of media bull crap to ruin his carier guess he didnt play by someones ruls so its lets distroy mels carier time be better if everyond didnt feed into all this bull
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I still stand by Mel - I think what he said was wrong and ethically horrible, but Oksana doesn't sound like a "woman in fear for her life", she sounds like she's taunting him, in my opinion. His rage is not right, and he needs help, but I think she's a money sucking pig.
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Another reason why the mentally ill do not get the help they need til they do the crime or kill themselves or others. That why they don't executed the mentally ill.
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Eh, when she gets her settlement, she will move on to the next poor bastard, eh, I mean rich bastard, who will fall for her crap. We have not heard the last of her.
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