Pee-wee Herman Star Paul Reubens Opens Up About 1991 Arrest and Child Porn Scandal

Paul Reubens, of Pee-wee Herman fame, went from being one of the most respected and admired stars of children's TV and film to "that weirdo who got caught allegedly masturbating in a porn theater" overnight in 1991. Scandal slammed Reubens again in 2001 when his Hollywood home was raided on a false tip, resulting in three years battling child pornography charges which were eventually reduced to a misdemeanor obscenity offense.
In an in-depth interview with
Playboy, the 58-year-old actor defends himself, states how he could have proven in court the masturbation arrest was an error, and describes himself as "more infamous for two misdemeanors" that perhaps any cult hero in Hollywood history.
Reporter Bill Zehme writes of the interview, "Paul Reubens told me repeatedly, as we dug through emotional crevices unimaginable, that he'd never opened himself up this nakedly outside of a shrink's presence."
Read on.
Pee-wee Herman has seen a major resurgence lately, with a live stage show receiving glowing reviews in LA and set to come to Broadway this fall, as well as talks of new films possibly produced by Judd Apatow. "Being somebody who has had the opportunity to move through a lot of horrible stuff, I would much rather be in this mode of 'Wow, it really is true! People really do like me' instead of any other negative thing I've dwelled on or built up," Reubens tells Playboy.
But there were much, much darker times. His arrest became the hottest story of its time in 1991, beating out serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer for headlines. "My story led the news for five days in a row. This man killed lots of people, drilled holes in their heads and poured acid into them. And he got the second spot on the news, after me," Reubens says.
The wounds of showbiz companions reducing him to a punchline still sting. Reubens calls TV personalities like Arsenio Hall and Jay Leno people he naively mistook for true friends. "I had already said the allegations weren't true and felt I deserved the benefit of the doubt from them. Make a joke about me but also just say, 'By the way, he's been a friend of our show for many years,'" Reubens says. "I was shocked people would kick me when I was down."
One of the newsiest bits in Playboy's interview is the revelation that Reubens was set to knock the masturbation charges down if the case had gone to trial. "We had ready an expert from the Masters and Johnson Institute who was going to testify that in 30 years of research on masturbation the institute had never found one person who masturbated with his or her nondominant hand. I'm right-handed, and the police report said I was jerking off with my left hand. That would have been the end of the case right there, proof it couldn't have been me."
Reubens ultimately plead no contest to get out of the limelight and move on. But moving on wasn't as easy as he'd hoped. Though Reubens had never been a socialite or paparazzi magnet, he found his home staked out by photographers for months. "To get out, I hid on the floor of somebody's car, under a blanket. Toward the end of those first three months I made an appointment with a therapist and made him come to my house. Sometime during the session he said, 'You know you're in shock, right?' I didn't know. When he said it, I thought, Oh my God! Okay, I get it ... As a result I now know everything there is to know about scandal and shock ... I know how to navigate all this hideous, sh***y, horrible stuff you go through. Which saved my life when scandal number two happened."
The second scandal is handily summarized by Reubens himself:
"The police had been given a false tip in an alleged sting operation and came to my house. They thought the wrong thing, and they were there for the wrong reason, and when that became clear, they should have left. Or they should have taken all my computers like they did but spent three minutes looking through them and realized they were wrong. Hypothetically, even in a less than perfect world, you assume if the police barge into your house and it's the wrong house and they have guns drawn and you hit the ground because you're supposed to be, say, a crack dealer -- and it's obvious you're not -- that they ought to say, 'Oh, okay. Sorry.' But they don't, and they certainly didn't after raiding my home in search of things that just didn't exist. The state eventually realized I had nothing offensive, but the city attorney decided to put me through three years of hell anyway."
Now Reubens faces an existence where the two misdemeanors -- misunderstandings both, it seems -- trail him as footnotes on Wikipedia, IMDb, on airplanes or in interactions with complete strangers. "But you know what?" he says. "At this point the footnote is neither here nor there for me. It has no effect on me.
It's hard to argue the greater footnote for Paul Reubens will always be the classic character of Pee-wee Herman, a gig he's so associated with 'The Godfather' himself didn't know there was a distinction to be made: "Amazingly, by way of a mutual friend of his son Christian, I learned that even Marlon Brando thought Pee-wee was a real person! He couldn't believe I was an actor who had created that persona -- which is maybe the highest benediction."
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Good for Pee-Wee, hope he is back for good. He and Soupy Sale are my favorites.
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But Soupy Sales is dead.
Ditto, Bill. In their times, Soupy and Peewee (Paul) were my two favorites, and I miss seeing them. Soupy's gone, but I'd love to see a return of Peewee.
How do you think he got the nickname 'PEE WEE.'
maybe sighs matters.
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Shoe mirrors!
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I'm appalled to hear that people think that innocent people don't take plea deals when it happens everyday. It happens countless times every day for many reasons. I believe Paul Reubens and I am so sorry for what he has undergone. I wish him the best in the future.
Peewee Herman is such a great talent. I just love him. You gotta hand it to him......you certainly don't want him handing it to you. LOL Seriously ya gotta love the guy.
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Never one to make snap judgments, I had always been leery of the public masturbation charges against Reubens. Although, we will never know exactly what happened, I choose to believe Reubens' side of the story. I have a great deal of respect for law enforcement, they have a difficult job, but they do make mistakes. It's just unfortunate that those mistakes were made with such a public figure.
Also, I'm always a little baffled by the delight that some people get from humiliating public figures. Especially ones who have a clean and wholesome persona.
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I love Pee Wee, too ... I'm always suspicious of someone getting stung on charges like this in an ADULT theatre ... it's not like he was flashing a bunch of kindergarteners on the playground.
Irony has unprecedented entertainment appeal. Your curiousity simply perpetuates this.
Can you say FREAK?
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I know you are, but what am I?
Forget
Real
Enforcement
And
Kick ‘em when they up and kick ‘em when they down.
I think that if PeeWee has a repirse of his "Pee wee's Playhouse" he should add a new character. Why it would be "Mr. Hand" of course.
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A whining weirdo whose talents are bizarre. never liked him, never will.
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We love you Pee Wee! Everybody masturbates in a theater once in a while, it's no big deal. Please bring your show back!
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EVERYBODY masturbates in a theater? Everybody? Gee, nobody I know does that. In fact I'd guess that most folks who want to choke the chicken while watching porn would do it with home video. PeeWee's mistake was not having a folded overcoat on his lap like most of the other porn theater pervs.
Thank you mister police officer for protecting me when I am in a adult movie house. I may get spluie on me from some perv. Don't you think the tax payers money could have been better spent looking for real crime. I bet the cop was really proud when he told his wife who he arrested and where and for what. Way to go P.D.
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You're right, and if I had been his defense lawyer I would have asked the cop how much of his "stuff" was he holding, and about how much was left over the top etc.? You know, just to prove he had a handle on it!